LOTF Fri. Oct. 11/19
Ch. 8-12 (see Lord of the Flies transcript PDF file on edsby) or following link:
http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/literature/books_in_PDF/Lord%20of%20the%20Flies.pdf
1-Explain the irony in Jack’s saying, “I’m not going to play any longer. Not with you” (Ch. 8, p. 98).2-What is Simon’s “ancient, inescapable recognition” upon speaking to the lord of the flies (Ch. 8, p. 111)?
3-Why do the boys attack Simon? What does his death indicate about how the boys have changed?
1-Explain the irony in Jack’s saying, “I’m not going to play any longer. Not with you” (p. 127, page 130 for the book).
ReplyDeleteThere is a rather large amount of irony in his words. The irony is that when he says he will not play any longer, he leaves and "plays". He "plays" by doing what he wanted to do in the first place: hunt. It is quite ironic that he says he says he is not going to play any longer, but he ends up "playing". Jack does this through hunting, building a "tribe" and putting on war paint. He essentially starts his own game: a game of hunting. In summary, the irony in Jack's words is that he says he is not going to play any longer, but he does "play" in a different way.
2-What is Simon’s “ancient, inescapable recognition” upon speaking to the lord of the flies (p. 138, page 152 for the book)?
The "ancient, inescapable recognition" can refer to Simon's religious ties. In the novel, there have been several references about how Simon is religious. Examples are when he goes alone to think/meditate. This connects with his "ancient, inescapable recognition" upon speaking to The Lord of the Flies in the sense that The Lord of the Flies is a demon/devil. Religiously, a demon is an ancient entity in which it's existence is something that cannot escape. The ancient, inescapable recognition can be the fact that Simon, a religious person is seeing a demon. An ancient, inescapable recognition of the thing that is opposed by religion.
3-Why do the boys attack Simon? What does his death indicate about how the boys have changed?
Simon is attacked through a rising conflict. The skies grow dark, thunder and lightning appear, and Jack, along with the others, sings a chant about killing the beast. Under all of these circumstances, Simon comes down to the boys, as they are doing the chant, holding a parachute. He does this because he wanted to tell people that the beast was not real and that is was just a dead parachutist. However, because of the chaotic darkness, the lightning and momentary flashes make it seem as if Simon is a "beast". Due to this, the boys pounce on Simon, beating him until he dies. They attack him because of a misunderstanding, mistaking him for the "beast". This indicates how far the boys have evolved throughout the novel, showing the boys have gone so low as to kill one of their kind. All because of a simple misunderstanding.
Good points Ivan. Your answer is more interesting than mine. How do you even write that much?
DeleteQ.1
ReplyDeleteThe irony in Jack’s saying, “I’m not going to play any longer. Not with you” is that Jack demands a vote amongst the boys with the intent of removing Ralph as their leader and taking over but none of the boys votes for Ralph's removal.
Q1)
ReplyDeleteIn chapter 8, Jack tried to surpass Ralph. He said they should vote again for the leader. After Ralph winning the vote again, Jack yelled “I’m not going to play any longer. Not with you” and ran away. This show the fact that although Jack acts tough and hunts and all that, he can’t tolerate losing and he think all this is some kind of a game. This shows he is still a kid inside and hasn’t matured yet.
Q2)
After Simon hallucinating, he closes his eyes and tries not to look at the head (Pig head on a stick). After a while when he gets back, he stares at it again. By "his gaze was held by that ancient, inescapable recognition" Golding means Simon was staring at lord of the flies himself. “ancient, inescapable recognition” means evil and the ancient beliefs about him.
Q3)
After Simon hallucinating in the woods, he crawls back to the boys. But when he finally crawls out the woods, boys think he is “the beast” and brutally beat him up with their bare hands. Even Piggy who is the most civilized boy amongst all beat him. The setting is what makes the boys act this way. It’s chaotic and tragic at the same time. Boys singing the chant, lightning strikes with limited light and darkness. This part of the novel shows how the kids rejecting being civilized.
Interesting answer for question one. That is a pretty good thought to say how on the inside, Jack is still like a kid that cannot tolerate losing.
DeleteQ.3
ReplyDeleteThe boys considered Simon to be an animal as they made him their pray because they thought Simon was the beast. The boys were scared of loosing their life, so they attacked and the beast inside them, as Simon said, was revealed. Even after Simon death, the kids believed that the beast was able to change into any form and attack anytime.
It's so cruel that Simon died just because of a misunderstanding.
DeleteQ.2
ReplyDeleteThe Lord of the Flies talked to Simon because he was starting to go crazy. First he said that the beasts were the kids themselves. He was symbolically right because the kids were becoming “uncivilized.” This means that Simon was able to see the truth. Even though it sounds a little unrealistic, the sow head chose Simon to warn him about his future. It was like a foreshadowing of what happens to Simon.
ReplyDelete1)Jack says, “I’m not going to play anymore. Not with you.” It shows he sees the boys adventures on the island as a game. He decides not to “play” anymore because he doesn’t like the rules of Ralph’s game and he knows that he’s not going to win. He goes off to “play” by himself, and get some of the boys to “play” his game with him because he wants to have power and his own tribe.
2)The “ancient inescapable recognition” that Simon is referring to, shows the existence of the devil which is inside him and he understood that the devil is inside each of the boys.
3)Simon’s death happened at night when it was lightning and thunder, boys were dancing and excited so they lost their control over what they were doing. They couldn’t see his face probably, they thought he was the beast and could harm them, so they attacked him and killed him.Although, after Simon’s death, the boys decided that the beast took Simon's form so they wouldn't feel bad about killing him.
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